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. i'm susie gharib. with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might not get it done before the midnight deadline tonight. the senate could vote in time, but it's possible the house will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff. on wall street today, investors bought up stocks on high hopes of deal after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how the major averages closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books
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as lawmakers struggle to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. peter barnes believes the president will announce a deal. we will bring you his comments live. it is an early close on the trading day. sandra smith is in the pits where traders are watching every development in washington. she joins us now with today's trade and how commodities are faring. sandra: we just had financial commodities close for the day. the treasury pits just closed minutes ago. it was an interesting close to watch. as you put up the board, treasuries saw their first loss in four trading days. another sign that these markets are predicting some sort of deal to get down by the end of the day. we are not seeing investors slinging. the yield on the ten year was the lowest close on record. certainly a big sign coming from those markets. they closed at the top of the hour. the dow, s&p and nasdaq futures closing here in chicago. just moments away from that. the electronic trading of all of these products will continue and have their mourner hundred normal trading hours of the day. we are watching gold prices. t
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or the fiscal cliff deal? >> no, the fiscal cliff deal, and what might they be arriving at in the next day or so? >> well, here is what we are hearing. i will believe none of it until i see it. >> right. >> the rates will go up for high income people, and we don't know how high income, president obama wants $250,000 as the threshold, but republicans are pushing for more than $400,000, but it is splitting hairs at a certain point and especially now in the 11th hour or less than 30 hours away from the deadline. so we will see that, and we hope that they are going to put an amt patch in to protect the middle-class in from playing the wealth year for tax year 2012 yet, and we are totally running out of time on that one, and we have a bunch of tax extenders for businesses and individuals and they have expired and will they extend those? and the payroll tax will certainly expire and nobody is talking about that. the first pay xhek in jcheck in will be smaller regardless because of that. >> and you are so good at giving explanations for 99.8% of americans who are not accountants. but the amt patch will
cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season continues. many consumers hit the malls today to return gifts and buy what they really wanted. and this is the time many gift cards get redeemed. but for retailers, holiday sales so far have been a flop. sales in the two months leading up to christmas, rose just 0.7%, according to mastercard advisors that tracks the numbers. that's way below what the retail industry was predicting. erika miller spoke with retail expert dana telsey and began by asking what happened. >> i think there were a confluence of events, extra long season. hurricane sandy. tragedy in ct. >> none of the events out there were feel good factor events. it was all for consumer morale. >> when you look at the weakness this holiday season, how much of the blame do you put on retailers for not having inspiring merc
in washington. there's no deal, no new offer on the fiscal cliff crisis. president obama has just told the two senate leaders they should make the deal. the results immediately felt in the financial markets. look where the dow closed down 158 points when it became very clear nothing was happening and now take a look at where the numbers are in the after markets. we would open now down 315 points on the dow if we started trading now. down 315 points. we have much more on this throughout the rest of the program, but the market's very unhappy. we do have some good news to report tonight. looks like at least one cliff has been averted for the time being. the so-called container cliff. the union that represents dock workers and u.s. maritime lines came to an agreement today to extend their current contract for 30 days. this is a big relief now for the retail industry and consumers who were staring at real destruction again for the supply chain. here now is jonathan gold and he's vice president of supply chain and customs policy for the national retail federation. jonathan, good to see you. >> miche
on a fiscal cliff deal? darren gersh reports. >> reporter: here is a measure of how bad things are now in washington. markets rallied on news the house will come back to work on sunday, even though there is no solution ready for lawmakers when they return. and in the senate, which is back at work, republican leader mitch mcconnell warned he would not write a blank check to the white house, though he said he would keep an open mind on anything the president proposes. >> it appears to me the action, if there is any, is now in the senate side and we'll just have to see if we're able, on a bipartisan basis to move forward. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid said he too would try to reach agreement. but that was after spending most of the day hammering away at house republicans. reid blamed the current stand off on the inability of house republicans to pass their own plan which would have extended tax breaks for everyone making less than a million dollars a year. >> it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it a
at all. all eyes on the approaching fiscal cliff with just under eight hours left to make a deal. we've got you covered from capitol hill, we're going to be speaking live with congressmen from both sides of the aisle, representative tim hulz camp, mick mulvaney and dennis kucinich. david: also wilbur ross, chairman and ceo of -- [inaudible] and the former chairman of the white house council of economic advisers. i tell you, we get the prime guests right here. ed lazear says tax hikes hurt growth. find out just how much. liz: rich edson live on capitol hill with the very latest on the fiscal cliff countdown. larry shover live in the pits of the cme, and what action we saw, wow, and we've got more than $100 billion worth of advice from our market panel, bill greiner and sandy lincoln. but first, let's talk to rich edson and, rich, you know, you're looking at a situation at the moment where you have the president saying we're close, but no deal. you have senator mitch mcconnell on the republican side saying close, but no deal. leads me to ask, what about joe biden? our vice president? h
-christmas trading. stocks fell on those disappointing retail numbers, and more worries about getting a fiscal cliff deal in time. we'll have more on that in a moment. the dow fell almost 25 points, the nasdaq lost 22, and the s&p off six points. but more good news about housing today: home prices posted their best year-over-year growth since 2010. the closely watched s&p case- schiller index rose 4.3%, in october, beating expectations. looking at month over month performance, the 20 city index fell 0.1% from september to october. still, s&p is optimistic about housing activity in the new year. >> 2013 should be a good year for housing, we're going into the year with a whole lot of momentum, we've seen very strong housing starts, very strong construction in 2012 but even with that strength construction is still way below where it should be and we have a lot of lost ground to make up. >> susie: david blitzer also expects home prices to continue to improve through the end of next year, and he believes that rebound in prices will help the u.s. economic recovery. still ahead, the outlook for stocks in 2
if the president won there was going to be these issues we're dealing with referred to as the fiscal cliff. if mitt romney would have won probably not so much. >> probably not so much. >> the market has dealt with it. >> you're right. >> we are still talking about the same dysfunctional congress no matter who was in the white house though. >> exactly. i guess it all decides on which side of the dysfunctional aisle you sit on. >> thanks so much, guys. have a happy holiday everybody. thank you very much. we'll see you soon. we have 50 minutes before the closing bell sounds for the day and we got a market that is worsening going into the close. down about 53 points on the dow industrials. >> we seem to be at a fiscal cliff stalemate but it is not keeping lawmakers on either side of the aisle quiet. when we come back we go live to washington for the latest and hear from one republican congressman on where he is willing to compromise at all. >> as last-minute christmas gift orders pour into online retailers which is better off, amazon or best buy? coming up we'll look at both stocks and which you may wa
something about fiscal cliff, and then we'll move on that news, but traders are saying if we get a deal done, we'll see the market take off. we have not seen a santa claus rally this december, unfortunately, and, in fact, the nasdaq lower. stocks lower, by the way. here's the new york stock exchange, three stocks trading down for every one trading up. another thing trading up a the vix index. it's 20.18. the vix has traded below the two decade average, and that's not happened this month. we broke that trend. we have an uptick in the vix now. adam, back to you. adam: the question of the day, are we closing in on the deadline and potential plan to avert the fiscal cliff, about this afternoon's meeting between the leaders, and expectations between a deal are not running as high as they were back in november. remember this? >> i believe we can do this, avert the fiscal cliff that is right in front of us today. >> this is not something we are going to wait until the last day of december to get it done. adam. adam: proof words are cheap. it's the end of diecious, and absolutely nothing was done. w
and raises the stakes for the fiscal cliff end game because the white house had wanted a debt ceiling deal as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so
to offer a fiscal cliff deal, perhaps a scaled back proposal, but, still, no indication that's going to happen this afternoon. the senate is in session. the house returns sunday. they will take a vote sunday night on another piece of legislation. the senate has been working on other legislation, not related to the fiscal cliff, and that has some folks in washington speculating this afternoon's meeting in the white house is nothing but show. the one senior democrat says it is a serious effort. >> well, this is not for show, but a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try to get at least a small package, small deal together before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and the deal with some of the unemployment issues. >> now, that deal, the small deal that the congressman is talking about, speculation perhaps that includes a tax rate tax increase for families earning $500,000 a year, mid way point almost between what democrats and republicans had in the opening offer. perhaps up employment extension and other spendin
was no movement toward a fiscal cliff deal more in the action in the house or senate. the responsibility now to avoid massive taxes and draconian spending cuts resting squarely on the president. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry with our report. >> just as our economy is really starting to recover and starting to see optimisticsigns and we have seen actually some upside to from a whole range of areas, including two from including housing, now is not the time for more self-inflicted wounds , seven not the estimate from washington. lou: president obama's top advisers were quick to dump on the speaker come -- declaring he is backed into a corner. >> they wet from plan b to plan seal later. the fact that they could not even plan -- pass that was an embarrassment. >> in private the president's advisers admit they are bit more apprehensive firmly believing mr. obama has the upper end of the public. if the market takes the hit to the commander-in-chief we will still face his share of heat for washington this function to may point republicans are hammering. >> the u.s. economy is est
. it is another down day for the marquette as washington prepares for another round of fiscal cliff dealing tomorrow. right now the dow down 33 points at 1,105. >>> the u.s. government may reportedly expand its mortgage refinancing program to include borrowers to include mortgages not backed by freddie mac and fannie mae. the "wall street journal" reporting that the refi program under consideration could consider underwater borrowers who owe more than they're worth. that is about 11 million homes. >>> toyota could overtake general motors and reclaim the title of the world's biggest carmaker for 2012. the japanese automaker estimate worldwide sales are up 22% this year from 2011 when a massive earthquake and tsunami and severe floods in thailand disrupted parts supplies and sales. that's the latest from fox business, giving you the power to profit >> 34 christmas tornados hit the south. liz art conditions in the midwest. wicked weather all wreaking havoc on travelers the day after christmas. more than 450 flights have been canceled, 500 delayed. not good news. is it going to improve? let's h
freeze or maybe the layoffs if a fiscal cliff deal was not reached. still no deal as we stand. only a few days to go. are you actually planning a hiring freeze or layoffs? >> i think every business man plans the fall part of the year, particularly if they are on a calendar fiscal year. we put "x" percent of our budget at risk with a contingency just in case things go bad in the economy. >> what percentage is that now? >> i don't want to tip off to the street what our -- what our plan is, but what i will say is that we have doubled our contingency this year which puts in a set of action plans that we act on depending on what happens in the economy. so we pull back on cap "x" and gain cap "x" and we include head count. >> us a well know, mark, we've had a whole parade of ceos like you who tell us the very same story. we're waiting. what are you waiting for? what would you like to see from washington that gets to you unleash that cap "x" and other things? >> the best deal would be a big deal. >> you want a grand bargain? >> i mean, americans don't want plan "b." they don't want a short-term
. the fiscal cliff's blame itak all onin the class. is it too late for a deal? stick with us.ot is computer-anid coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? :00 eastern, sharp sell-off underway on concerned we are about to tumble of the fiscal cliff, not a good sign from washington. good afternoon from lori rothman. tracy: no deal in sight. stock trading near their lowest level of the day with five days until the fiscal cliff, we hit it, we had done. washington bureau chief is going to tell us the only way he sees a deal getting done. lori: we are running against the debt ceiling again. and we just raise that? we are borrowing again. new mixed signals on the economy. jobless claims fell to a 5-year low but consumer confidence tumbled as well. the director of economic policy senior fellow kevin hasic will be joining us. tracy: the northeast digging out for several inches of snow and more is on the way. will it be at wet blanket for retailers this critical shopping weekend? time for stocks as we do every 15 m
talking about all this. as we said, we are about to go over the fiscal cliff. if a deal is not reached to avoid the fiscal cli by january 2nd, automatic domestic and military spending cuts will kick in and the pentagon will be forced to cut $9 million in spending. >> if lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff, they may be able to avoid a different cliff, the dairy cliff. house and senate members appear likely to extend farm legislation for a year, a deal that would keep milk prices skyrocketing in january. we were worried about $6 gallon of milk. it could keep a decades old subsidy from coming back to life. the usda would be forced to buy milk at prices well above what farmers were getting now if the subsidy was revived. it could double the price of moib to $6.12 a gallon. >> markets have been reacting to each move on capitol hill, but obviously, things at this point are looking like the dow would open down by about 7.5 points. the dow is off 67 points and the nasdaq is down 14.75 points. all the surprised given the late hour that -- >> even if something doesn't happen today, it happens
. fiscal cliff talks at the white house end with no deal, but president obama says he's still hopeful and says "we've got to get this done." gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: th
. anybody in any authorities says anything about the likelihood or otherwise of a fiscal cliff deal you will see the market react. it happened earlier this morning. there was a report that maybe these talks between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what it is. even if we get a very, very narrow deal, whoop-de-doo, we have a debt ceiling problem and amt taxes, government spending, all of those problems outstanding, nothing done. the dow jones industrial average is not done up for the opening bell, it's down, we're 42 points, 48 points going down as of right now. 50 points lower. what did you give, what did you get for christmas this year? chances are, a computer tablet maybe? accordin
and senate today. can the fiscal cliff deal be reached? we're going to astrategists fro both sides of the aisle. plus, we're going to welcome a man who knows the world of washington and wall street very well. the great grandson of the 27th president and leading financial ceo in his own right, john taft is going to be our guest host. n] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> it's getting down to the wire. >> republicans have bent over backwards. >> we're in the name situation we've been in for a long time. >> america heads closer to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how businesses are bracing for the worst, and what it means for your money. >> and could the looming trouble at the capitol be the right time to buy? >> i love gold! >> why gold
states and around the world. there has been a major snag in the negotiations toward a fiscal cliff deal with fewer than two days remaining on the countdown clock, dana bash is on capitol hill. tell us what the main point of contention is now. >> there are few according to sources in both parties. the biggest one when it comes to the democrats, from their point of view, is the fact that republicans in an offer that they made last night included what is known as chained cpi in laymen's terms and in terms that matter to many americans, it would effectively make social security checks lower each month. >> we learned this from sources earlier. the senate majority leader, harry reid went to the senate floor and talked about the snag. list ton what he said. >> the one thing i do want to mention is that we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, that doesn't seem appropriate. we're open to just discussion about entitlement reforms, but we're going to have to take it in a different direction, the present status will not work. we're willing to make concessions as part of a ba
as lawmakers continue to scramble to get a fiscal cliff deal done. rich edson has the latest. rich: they are considering legislation here in the senate today. president obama says he called to talk to congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, last evening. there is no progress here to report. president obama put it all on the house. >> they are operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly speaking that 250 he is discussing that would keep tax rates where they are for income amount for less than $250,000 increased those earning more. house speaker says senator reed should talk less and legislate more. senate democrats have not. they want to extend all the current tax rates and avoid some of the spending cuts. democrats are on their opening offer. they basically have not moved anywhere. there is less than a week to go. >> senator reid talking about a less than $250,000 limit. speaking right. exactly. liz
today with little progress seen on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the government starts taking steps to buy more time before the u.s. hits the debt ceiling. the yen is hitting a two-year low against the dollar as the new japanese battle vows to lower deflation. exports rise pushing the nikkei to its strongest gain in seven years. >>> and shares in toyota trading higher after the japanese carmaker settles a major u.s. class action lawsuit. it said the $1 billion payment is already priced in. >>> treasury secretary tim geithner says the u.s. will hit the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling on monday. in a letter to congressional leaders, geithner says treasury will begin taking steps to save the government about $200 billion and hopefully delay a potential default until sometime in february. geithner says it's harder to predict the time frame because of the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. and among the measures treasury will take include halting investments in the federal government's employee pension fund. not necessarily great moves there. president obama arrives back in washington
on vacation. washington lawmakers are on holiday. there's still no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is a week away. hampton pearson is in washington on the stalemate. >> as early as the day after christmas, congress and the white house will have to start to deal with what president obama called the real consequences of going over that fiscal cliff. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> a short-term deal won't just focus on tax rates. the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the se
the fiscal cliff. still without a solid deal in place, but both the president and mitch mcconnell, the senator on the republican side, say we're close. up next, allison deans shows you what to invest in whether we have a deal or whether we fall over that edge. ♪ liz: talk about a cliffhanger, with just minutes left in the trading day, the nation's toes clinging like this, like kilroy, right? over the edge of the fiscal cliff. no deal written in stones, but the markets still believe -- 139 points for the dow jones industrials -- that there may be some type of deal. join us now, allison deans, the senior adviser at varick asset management. we brought you in because you're so good at this kind of stuff, and we thought what we should invest in there is no deal or if there is a deal. what's your mind telling you? >> i think there will be a deal. i think if it doesn't happen tonight, they'll exing tend -- extend some of the benefits, and my sense is it'll be a compromise for both parties. it's just a shame they wait until the very last minute waiting to see what will happen. li
that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be centrist mainstream positions on these issues. i'm an optimist. we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that's true for congress, as well. and i think it's important for americans to remember politics have always been messy. people have been asking me a lot about the film "lincoln" and -- >> is this your lincoln moment? >> well, no. look, i never compare myself to lincoln and, b, the magnitude of the issues are quite different from
the tax portion of the fiscal cliff. but simon, we still have to deal with the issue in terms of the budget cuts for defense. that would mean 10%. back to you. >> okay, thank you very much. >>> let's remind everybody, we are waiting for president obama to speak at that podium at the white house in about 9 minutes time. our own john harwood adding to the optimism by suggesting they have agreed on levels of 39.6% tax would kick in at 400,000 for a single person, $450,000 for a family. we will wait and see what obama is able to tell us at that news conference in 8 minutes time. the u.s. is now on the edge of the fiscal cliff. hours to go until the deadline and as we get closer in theory, the pentagon is getting ready to layoff quite literally thousands of employees because of the automatic spending cuts that go into effect if no deal is reached in d.c. at midnight. we have more on that fall out, hunter? >> how you doing simon? ? yes, just to flush out a little bit of what ber that was talking about, is delaying the spending cuts, down to the wire of the fiscal cliff negotiations.
leverage. they are worried about a bad deal. any deal that gets us past the fiscal cliff is going to be seen as a good deal. >> susie: it seems like we are further apart than last week when president obama gave the last minute pep talk toget the talks going. do we have to reach some point of pain in washington, d.c. that people get mos motivated to geta deal. how does it work in washington? >> i wish i knew.it seems that n ratcratcheting up the pain. i was surprised. i thought enough after the election would be sorted out and the fiscal cliff would be a painful enough deadline they would come together. but it seems like tpain will come when we get to the dead cliff where they must absolutely deal with. it's one area where they must focus attention and create another deadline where they have to do something and potentially a larger agreement. >> susie: real quickly this has been frustrating from everybody from wall street to ceo to average american taxpayers. even the president saw that playing out. how do you seep see ts playing out. will we have a deal on monday. >> it'we haven't
a fiscal cliff deal until late january, but the possible market turmoil to follow could create a stock buying opportunity. joining me now, global financial services president and portfolio manager. of course you'll see the glass half full on this one. yet been saying this since november, to be fair. >> taking the position that we don't think the politicians are really going to get anything done until the backs of firmly against the wall which will be after the first pay cycle of the new year. that's why we are expecting third week of january, but this is also an opportunity. we have to recognize that. if you look at the market today, just imagine. if you pull 20 investment professionals yesterday we probably would have said markets are going to be down today. better than expected economic news. cheryl: is trying to, but they're is a lot -- one of the best performing sectors of 2012 was financials. it would have predicted that at the beginning of 2012? is in that kind of hard for people to focus on what sectors for people to look at when you have this crowd of cliff uncertainty? >> ther
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down there as investors start to price in the deal of not getting a deal struck on the fiscal cliff. sentiment hasn't improved over the weekend. >> no, it hasn't. but time to buy europe, according to the barons magazine. european stocks could rally by as much as 20% next year. in its cover story this weekend, the investor bible has picked ten stocks that it stays are undervalued, minimum downsize risk and they provide decent dividends, as well. on the list are vw volkswagen, rio tinto, rush and wpp. on the also on the list, we have deutsche plus, vivende, axa and enagas. >> it's tough to know whether to buy the handbag or the stocks from lvmh before the christmas. >> i suspect if there are any husbands out there, they would put a stock of lvmh under the tree, i'm not sure if jewelry would be equal. >> we've been asking the economist toes give us their outlook for 2013. >> do you think the u.s. is going to continue to be strong? if they can solve the fiscal cliff issues, keep economic indicators up. what they're doing with the jobs is good, asset performance is good. asia, it's going
.o.p. that they should not stand in the way of a last minute deal on the fiscal cliff, democrats demanding higher tax rates on the so-called wealthy. joining us now is former investment banker carol roth. a, it seems like a total standoff and b, seems like we're headed over that cliff, it looks like it. here is the question for you, carol, if we go over the that cliff what happens to the markets? >> well, stuart, i think if we go over the cliff, the markets are going to react negatively, they reacted negatively the last time we revisited the debt ceiling for tarp, so, i don't think that the markets are going to be particularly happy, but i don't know that it's necessarily for the right reasonss i to think that we're going to get a deal here, but i think it's going to end up happening late january, maybe middle of january, but at the end. day, stuart, it doesn't solve any of our problems. stuart: i agree, i agree. >> and i'm so frustrated that we're 13 months in, we've had 13 months to figure it out and we're at the 11th hour. stuart: everybody is. the mood of the country, furious nothing is happening
that we don't have fiscal cliff agreement and even if we go over the cliff but once a deal is done, don't forget the risk appetite back? and that is irish for gold. >> in the last year whenever we had risk oo gold and silver participated, that would be in a healthy fashion as a small market in very little capital flowing into it we saw some influence in terms of price action. i think you do have macro issues driving concerns in the new year. central banks around the world will continue to print the bank of japan being influenced this next year will throw their hat in the ring along with the bank of england and the fed as the print and try to monetize their way to recovery. ashley: you bring up a good point. people buy gold as a hedge against inflation, but also a safe haven against a crisis. we seem to weather the financial crisis very well. we have this fiscal cliff facing us but if you look at inflation and the safe haven, i don't know, those gold fits the mold for those reasons? >> as an inflation hedge it did not keep up in real-time. more reflected today is sophisticated investigat
to the capital to deal with the fiscal cliff. schulz says the cup campaign aims to serve as a rallying cry in the days leading up to the january 1st fiscal clipped deadline and thereby increase their weight time for a cup of coffee. dennis: no word whether the deal will sue over misappropriation of that phrase. shibani: schulz taking matters of forcing a deal. dennis: i am sure that will work. nothing else has. looking really nice that christmas but it is wreaking havoc on people trying to flee their in-laws and fly home today. we are live in the fox weather center. shibani: speaking of travel we have last minute new year's deal ahead. you don't have to stay home. we have great deals. take a look at this ten year treasury. >> i am lauren simonetti with your fox business brief. there's a sea of red on wall street as washington prepares for another round of fiscal cliff wheeling and dealing. dow jones down 50 points. cablevision filed a lawsuit in the supreme court against the communications workers of america for making false claims about its internet service and britain alleging that distr
cliff. no deal yet but we're getting lots of mixed messages. >> that's a good way to put it. >> mixed messages around washington today with some animosi animosity, but here's what senate majority leader harry reid had to say just a little while ago. listen. >> i say to the speaker take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation ahead of your own fate as speaker of the house. millions of middle class families are nervously watching, waiting and counting down the moment until our taxes go up. >> well, senator kay bailey hutchison is republican from texas, first elected back in 1993 and served in leadership positions and been an outspoken nor to the budget and defense. senator, great to have you with us here. >> we sure are going to miss you, one of the great group of moderates. >> maybe you're relieved to be leaving at this point. >> thinking of new year's eve here in washington and thinking, you know, this is the time to exit. >> go out while things get a little mess over there. how will you feeling after the variousade lines toit about getting things don
leaders right now to see if there's common ground on finding a solution to deal on the fiscal cliff. we told you minutes ago we understand from a source that the president is not unvailing a new offer, but going with the original offer which was dismissed by the g.o.p. leaders so that is one aspect of this. we're also told by an administration showrs that president obama will not be on a call to ceos scheduled at 5:30 this afternoon eastern time. the administration officials saying, quote, it's a routine call with business leaders and white house staff be giving them the latest on the fiscal cliff". lloyd will be on the call according to a source, and still working on exactly what's transpyring inside the white house. that's lloyd blankfind there, again, not part of the call with the ceos, and conferring with the chief executives on what's going on with the fiscal cliff arrangements or, you know, negotiations because, obviously, critical getting closer and closer to the fiscal cliff, session lows now, the news does not portend good news with regard to the negotiations down 158 points an
vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff, just five days to go until we go over. >> threatening both coasts with workers snubbing up best and final contract offer. >> and more on the home front. we'll have more on the data and whether it can keep one of the best performing sectors of 2012, home builders going in 2013. >> data showing what some experts say is the slowest growth in spending since the 2008 recession. according to mastercard, spending polls units through christmas eve, retail sales rose just .7% from the year before. the national retail federation says it is forecasting a 4% jump in sales. we'll continue to get trickles of data as we progress through this last week. it is still an important week, the final week before the new year in terms of retail sales for these guys. >> historically positive the last five days of the year and blends into the first couple of days of the new year. generally get a nice year-end effect. we'll get claims tomorrow. new home sales tomorrow. chicago pmi on friday. but this idea that retail is soft, was it the fiscal cliff? was it sandy? was it some
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